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The Driven publishes detailed sales data for Australian battery electric vehicle sales on this page.
Data is sourced from the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) report known as VFacts, the Electric Vehicle Council (EVC), as well as individual companies.
This page will be updated as new data is released each month, and as new information comes to hand. It is designed to be a reference point for the industry and consumers alike.
For more details on individual EV models available in Australia, please visit our EV Models page. And for handy tips on the EV experience, please check out our EV Explainers section and our section on Road Trips and Reviews.
Monthly sales data for 2024 is located here.
The table below tracks the monthly sales volume of each battery electric vehicle model currently sold in Australia. Missing data in some cells (shown with a ‘-‘) indicates that we are waiting for information from those respective manufacturers, usually for electric vehicles that have an equivalent internal combustion engine (ICE) variant of the same model.
Total monthly EV sales figures as reported by FCAI and EVC are included below the monthly tally for individual EV models. The gap between these two totals represents the number of EVs we are still missing individual data for.
Some manufacturers have told us they will not provide EV specific breakdowns of these models beyond what is available in the VFacts report, so certain data will remain missing unless we can find an alternative source.
We are now using a different table format that supports sorting on each column by clicking on the header row, filtering rows and adjusting how many rows of data are visible. By default the table is sorted by the year to date (YTD) column, showing the top 10 vehicles.
Use the drop down menu above the top left of the table to adjust how many rows are visible and enter your filter in the search box above the top right side to display only the rows that match.
| Model Name | YTD | Sep | Aug | Jul | Jun | May | Apr | Mar | Feb | Jan |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tesla Model Y | 17237 | 3927 | 2324 | 555 | 3457 | 3580 | 280 | 1725 | 924 | 465 |
| BYD Sealion 7 | 8483 | 1887 | 1413 | 1427 | 1795 | 488 | 743 | 573 | 157 | 0 |
| Tesla Model 3 | 5416 | 736 | 603 | 362 | 1132 | 317 | 220 | 1104 | 668 | 274 |
| Kia EV5 | 3901 | 307 | 367 | 462 | 553 | 703 | 342 | 478 | 400 | 289 |
| Geely EX5 | 3015 | 279 | 401 | 490 | 822 | 511 | 324 | 188 | 0 | 0 |
| BYD Atto 3 | 3012 | 288 | 594 | 276 | 576 | 322 | 355 | 358 | 138 | 105 |
| BYD Seal | 2955 | 450 | 623 | 273 | 627 | 355 | 325 | 194 | 56 | 52 |
| MG MG4 | 2650 | 117 | 104 | 161 | 251 | 319 | 363 | 444 | 451 | 440 |
| BYD Dolphin | 2569 | 523 | 434 | 275 | 561 | 345 | 216 | 86 | 44 | 85 |
| Kia EV3 | 1940 | 241 | 295 | 251 | 321 | 310 | 336 | 186 | 0 | 0 |
| BMW iX1 | 1498 | 101 | 100 | 187 | 268 | 207 | 219 | 156 | 137 | 123 |
| MG S5 | 1184 | 386 | 284 | 237 | 171 | 106 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Polestar 4 | 1033 | 151 | 120 | 86 | 174 | 133 | 124 | 101 | 83 | 61 |
| BMW iX2 | 980 | 93 | 77 | 90 | 167 | 115 | 118 | 107 | 105 | 108 |
| Volvo EX30 | 977 | 108 | 71 | 101 | 138 | 95 | 79 | 174 | 108 | 103 |
| MG ZS EV | 964 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 136 | 227 | 90 | 432 | 74 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQE SUV | 904 | 144 | 166 | 50 | 159 | 8 | 27 | 219 | 94 | 37 |
| Volkswagen ID.4 | 729 | 177 | 219 | 149 | 1 | 1 | 57 | 107 | 9 | 9 |
| Audi Q4 e-tron | 728 | 68 | 56 | 85 | 100 | 44 | 63 | 97 | 94 | 121 |
| BMW i4 | 718 | 38 | 54 | 68 | 84 | 92 | 73 | 106 | 95 | 108 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQA | 683 | 53 | 132 | 52 | 52 | 84 | 56 | 97 | 84 | 73 |
| Chery E5 | 679 | 122 | 75 | 48 | 85 | 93 | 103 | 39 | 67 | 47 |
| Toyota bZ4X | 676 | 80 | 114 | 55 | 56 | 72 | 89 | 64 | 66 | 80 |
| Polestar 2 | 661 | 33 | 91 | 141 | 135 | 82 | 56 | 68 | 36 | 19 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQB | 649 | 88 | 42 | 146 | 73 | 49 | 44 | 54 | 58 | 95 |
| Zeekr X | 580 | 53 | 79 | 64 | 92 | 68 | 45 | 81 | 98 | 0 |
| Volvo EX40 | 552 | 65 | 82 | 40 | 94 | 73 | 49 | 48 | 63 | 38 |
| Mini Aceman | 537 | 54 | 55 | 60 | 81 | 49 | 65 | 78 | 46 | 49 |
| Hyundai Ioniq 5 | 535 | 33 | 37 | 39 | 62 | 65 | 46 | 79 | 65 | 109 |
| GWM Ora | 527 | 95 | 33 | 68 | 60 | 75 | 64 | 51 | 44 | 37 |
| Mini Countryman Electric | 524 | 67 | 39 | 59 | 62 | 60 | 45 | 67 | 69 | 56 |
| Leapmotor C10 | 452 | 71 | 29 | 43 | 60 | 55 | 56 | 87 | 29 | 22 |
| Hyundai Kona EV | 415 | 31 | 30 | 22 | 47 | 42 | 41 | 67 | 79 | 56 |
| BMW iX | 379 | 58 | 36 | 88 | 63 | 26 | 12 | 38 | 33 | 25 |
| Mini Cooper Electric | 365 | 39 | 32 | 32 | 42 | 37 | 30 | 74 | 28 | 51 |
| Hyundai Inster | 339 | 57 | 44 | 38 | 41 | 101 | 51 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
| Volkswagen ID. Buzz | 323 | 46 | 70 | 53 | 58 | 75 | 3 | 18 | 0 | 0 |
| Kia EV6 | 320 | 20 | 22 | 21 | 29 | 27 | 39 | 63 | 47 | 52 |
| BMW i5 | 316 | 24 | 20 | 15 | 10 | 18 | 34 | 84 | 61 | 50 |
| Cupra Born | 314 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 8 | 30 | 81 | 69 | 71 | 50 |
| Ford Mustang Mach-E | 314 | 39 | 6 | 18 | 28 | 42 | 24 | 32 | 96 | 29 |
| Audi Q6 e-tron | 287 | 53 | 57 | 41 | 36 | 32 | 18 | 32 | 15 | 3 |
| Cupra Tavascan | 267 | 29 | 29 | 39 | 62 | 79 | 5 | 9 | 15 | 0 |
| BMW iX3 | 245 | 0 | 2 | 11 | 20 | 41 | 33 | 40 | 57 | 41 |
| Kia EV9 | 238 | 25 | 23 | 25 | 19 | 21 | 29 | 40 | 34 | 22 |
| Volkswagen ID.5 | 234 | 56 | 52 | 30 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 59 | 5 | 7 |
| Renault Megane E-Tech | 179 | 14 | 9 | 5 | 13 | 11 | 19 | 36 | 48 | 24 |
| Deepal S07 | 178 | 23 | 16 | 40 | 32 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Polestar 3 | 173 | 52 | 17 | 3 | 30 | 28 | 22 | 13 | 6 | 2 |
| Skoda Enyaq | 166 | 17 | 18 | 11 | 15 | 25 | 25 | 31 | 7 | 17 |
| Volvo C40 Recharge | 165 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 34 | 86 | 38 |
| Volvo EX90 | 158 | 11 | 18 | 16 | 35 | 31 | 21 | 9 | 11 | 6 |
| Porsche Taycan | 150 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 20 | 29 | 17 | 24 | 18 | 14 |
| Subaru Solterra | 139 | 2 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 43 | 25 | 19 | 8 | 16 |
| Jeep Avenger | 125 | 12 | 42 | 24 | 11 | 15 | 7 | 5 | 3 | 6 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQS SUV | 123 | 62 | 39 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 4 | 2 |
| Volkswagen ID. Buzz Cargo | 122 | 4 | 11 | 7 | 11 | 21 | 11 | 17 | 19 | 21 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQE | 107 | 8 | 9 | 8 | 32 | 34 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 9 |
| Kia Niro EV | 107 | 6 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 11 | 5 | 42 | 12 | 16 |
| Skoda Elroq | 102 | 77 | 23 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Zeekr 009 | 97 | 14 | 9 | 8 | 19 | 2 | 13 | 31 | 1 | 0 |
| Hyundai Ioniq 6 | 93 | 6 | 4 | 6 | 9 | 10 | 14 | 21 | 9 | 14 |
| Nissan Ariya | 82 | 47 | 35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| IM IM6 | 80 | 30 | 15 | 35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Deepal E07 | 72 | 72 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Nissan Leaf | 62 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 27 | 18 | 12 |
| Zeekr 7X | 53 | 53 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| MG Cyberster | 42 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 8 |
| Audi Q8 e-tron | 41 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 5 | 5 | 6 | 4 | 8 |
| Lexus RZ | 41 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 11 | 7 |
| IM IM5 | 38 | 10 | 10 | 18 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQV | 35 | 5 | 7 | 10 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 5 |
| BMW i7 | 29 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 3 |
| Hyundai Ioniq 9 | 26 | 6 | 6 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Audi e-tron GT | 25 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 7 |
| Genesis Electrified GV70 | 23 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| Genesis GV60 | 14 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 2 |
| LDV eT60 | 9 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5 |
| Genesis Electrified G80 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Lotus Eletre | 6 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| Jaguar I-Pace | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| LDV Mifa 9 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 |
| Lotus Emeya | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| Mercedes-Benz EQS | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Cadillac Lyriq | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | 0 | 0 |
| Fiat 500e | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Fiat Abarth 500e | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Ford E-Transit | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| LDV eDeliver 7 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Lexus UX | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Mercedes-Benz EQC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Mercedes-Benz eVito | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Peugeot e-2008 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Peugeot e-308 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Peugeot e-Expert | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Peugeot e-Partner | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Porsche Macan | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Renault Kangoo E-Tech | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Rolls-Royce Spectre | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Smart #1 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Smart #3 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| XPeng G6 | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Alfa Romeo Junior | 0 | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - | - |
| Total from above | 75184 | 11874 | 9876 | 7093 | 13007 | 9943 | 5853 | 8279 | 5548 | 3711 |
| Total FCAI + EVC BEV sales | 76443 | 12076 | 10003 | 7219 | 13169 | 10065 | 6010 | 8385 | 5684 | 3832 |
| Gap between totals | 1259 | 202 | 127 | 126 | 162 | 122 | 157 | 106 | 136 | 121 |
The table below tracks the monthly sales volume by brand for each battery electric vehicle currently sold in Australia. The brand data below is aggregated from the sales by model data above, so the same notes regarding missing data from some manufacturers applies.
| Brand Name | YTD | Sep | Aug | Jul | Jun | May | Apr | Mar | Feb | Jan |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tesla | 22653 | 4663 | 2927 | 917 | 4589 | 3897 | 500 | 2829 | 1592 | 739 |
| BYD | 17019 | 3148 | 3064 | 2251 | 3559 | 1510 | 1639 | 1211 | 395 | 242 |
| Kia | 6506 | 599 | 713 | 764 | 926 | 1072 | 751 | 809 | 493 | 379 |
| MG | 4840 | 505 | 390 | 399 | 434 | 568 | 594 | 539 | 889 | 522 |
| BMW | 4165 | 321 | 293 | 461 | 617 | 503 | 489 | 535 | 488 | 458 |
| Geely | 3015 | 279 | 401 | 490 | 822 | 511 | 324 | 188 | 0 | 0 |
| Mercedes-Benz | 2503 | 360 | 395 | 270 | 320 | 180 | 137 | 376 | 244 | 221 |
| Polestar | 1867 | 236 | 228 | 230 | 339 | 243 | 202 | 182 | 125 | 82 |
| Volvo | 1852 | 184 | 178 | 157 | 267 | 199 | 149 | 265 | 268 | 185 |
| Mini | 1426 | 160 | 126 | 151 | 185 | 146 | 140 | 219 | 143 | 156 |
| Volkswagen | 1408 | 283 | 352 | 239 | 71 | 99 | 93 | 201 | 33 | 37 |
| Hyundai | 1408 | 133 | 121 | 119 | 159 | 218 | 152 | 174 | 153 | 179 |
| Audi | 1081 | 130 | 119 | 128 | 141 | 81 | 91 | 136 | 116 | 139 |
| Zeekr | 730 | 120 | 88 | 72 | 111 | 70 | 58 | 112 | 99 | 0 |
| Chery | 679 | 122 | 75 | 48 | 85 | 93 | 103 | 39 | 67 | 47 |
| Toyota | 676 | 80 | 114 | 55 | 56 | 72 | 89 | 64 | 66 | 80 |
| Cupra | 581 | 30 | 30 | 42 | 70 | 109 | 86 | 78 | 86 | 50 |
| GWM | 527 | 95 | 33 | 68 | 60 | 75 | 64 | 51 | 44 | 37 |
| Leapmotor | 452 | 71 | 29 | 43 | 60 | 55 | 56 | 87 | 29 | 22 |
| Ford | 314 | 39 | 6 | 18 | 28 | 42 | 24 | 32 | 96 | 29 |
| Skoda | 268 | 94 | 41 | 11 | 15 | 25 | 27 | 31 | 7 | 17 |
| Deepal | 250 | 95 | 16 | 40 | 32 | 67 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Renault | 179 | 14 | 9 | 5 | 13 | 11 | 19 | 36 | 48 | 24 |
| Porsche | 150 | 8 | 10 | 10 | 20 | 29 | 17 | 24 | 18 | 14 |
| Nissan | 144 | 47 | 35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 27 | 18 | 12 |
| Subaru | 139 | 2 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 43 | 25 | 19 | 8 | 16 |
| Jeep | 125 | 12 | 42 | 24 | 11 | 15 | 7 | 5 | 3 | 6 |
| IM | 118 | 40 | 25 | 53 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Genesis | 43 | 2 | 8 | 12 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 4 |
| Lexus | 41 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 4 | 11 | 7 |
| LDV | 12 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 6 |
| Lotus | 9 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 |
| Jaguar | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Cadillac | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Fiat | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Peugeot | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Rolls-Royce | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Smart | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| XPeng | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Alfa Romeo | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Total from above | 75184 | 11874 | 9876 | 7093 | 13007 | 9943 | 5853 | 8279 | 5548 | 3711 |
Tim has 20 years experience in the IT industry including 14 years as a network engineer and site reliability engineer at Google Australia. He is an EV and renewable energy enthusiast who is most passionate about helping people understand and adopt these technologies.
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Hi Tim can you redo the whole excel sheet to prioritise units sold? Currently it seems to be a mixture of units and alphabetical order.
Thanks for that 👍
It currently lists by sales YTD, but here are the top 20 reported so far for March (unfortunately tabs aren't recognised):
Model Name March February January 2025 YTD
Totals 6896 4753 3495 15144
Tesla Model Y 1725 924 465 3114
Tesla Model 3 1104 668 274 2046
BYD Sealion 7 573 157 0 730
Kia EV5 478 400 289 1167
MG MG4 444 451 440 1335
BYD Atto 3 358 138 105 601
Mercedes-Benz EQE SUV 219 94 37 350
BYD Seal 194 56 52 302
Volvo EX30 174 108 103 385
BMW i4 106 95 108 309
Polestar 4 101 83 61 245
Audi Q4 e-tron 97 94 121 312
Mercedes-Benz EQA 97 84 73 254
BYD Dolphin 86 44 85 215
Zeekr X 81 98 0 179
Hyundai Ioniq 5 79 65 109 253
Mini Aceman 78 46 49 173
Cupra Born 69 71 50 190
Any reason for xpeng g6 showing as 0?
The numbers have not been reported yet.
I think it's more that they don't want to report their sales figures. Probably not a member of VFACTS or EVC either.
Not gonna a spade a shovel, these January numbers are pretty bad.
4902 January 2024, so it was the slowest month of the year. Factor in Model Y runout, Musk effect and the wait for the new cars from China to get their sales outlets established with stock to order, another year of high interest rates has gone by, etc.
You have a wicked sense of humour Cam. You’ve listed every excuse for poor sales except the most obvious: nobody wants them.
Everything was down. EVs less so.
Hybrids and PHEVs were up. Quite substantially too.
Depends on how you define EVs. If you excluded ICE only then EVs are kicking goals. PHEVs are a short term thing until the BEV version is released although not sure on the ute market because tradies are involved.
Fuel type. 2024 sales. Change YoY
Petrol. 528,978. -10.1%
Diesel. 369,842. -2.5%
Hybrid. 172,696. +76.0%
Electric. 91,292. +4.7%
Plug-in hybrid
(PHEV). 23,163. +100.2%
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/vfacts-2024-new-vehicle-sales-hit-record-high-but-slump-expected-soon
So petrol hybrids are your new friend
time will tell you are very wrong, but as I said, time will indeed tell.
"nobody wants them" Sure, some people expressly don't want them, but most have other reasons, possibly up-front capital costs, the desired category of vehicle being available, access to home or en-route charging etc etc. The huge leap in hybrids and PHEV sales says most people don't have a fundamental loathing for drive trains that include a battery and electric motor.
Amazing how many people want noisy, smelly, sluggish ICE vehicles
Crude, brittle, CVT transmissions and sensors galore BUT dealership maintenance friendly.
If nobody wants an EV, why were over 7,000 sold? That's NOT nobody. You LIED or didn't fact check. No wonder you have dozens of negative votes against your immature post.
Talk about numbers being down 😝 ice ice baby 87 voted down
Oops 88 😬
No matter what you say, EVs are coming into this country and will take over ICE cars. NOTHING you can do about it.
Maybe everyone bought Xpeng G6's or Zeekr X's?
Tim, I suggest we need to recognise changes in the market definition and possibly including some definitions in this list:
Personally I would list 1 to 5 on our list. We could 5 to 7 as in some circumstances could operate zero emissions although 5 could do so 90+% of time, 6, possibly operate around 10km zero emissions, and 7 may save possibly 20% of emissions. Some mild hybrids (8) may be more efficient and others worse than ICE (e.g. a small Toyota - withdrawn in AU).
EX40 has a typo in "Volco"
Fixed now, thanks Huy.
EV5 performing well there. Seen a few on the roads now. Surprised it outsold the Highland.
EV5 is an awesome car, very much enjoying mine! Beautiful for city driving and travelling, with so much room,comfort, and a smooth ride. Also had 7 year free servicing thrown in!
lol, what servicing?
Why does drive have different figures than the driven that is controlled by giles
Hi Blob and EV enthusiasts. Firstly, I'd like to apologise for my 'trolling' like comment from last month (below). I wasn't meaning to troll. I'm just a conservative (not of the Trump type!), - just centre-right. There are lots of people like me who group all left-wing/progressive causes in the same category. I'm talking: LGBT, transgender rights, First Nations, the voice, climate change, renewable energy and of course EVs fit into this group. Many EV enthusiasts overly spruik the environmental benefits of EVs - which the politically conservative don't buy. So im many people's minds, EVs are grouped with all the other causes above, read "it's just another activist cause". This needs to be decoupled.
You may still think that people like me are Trump-esque dinosaurs, but we're not. And I'm only a Gex X, not a boomer. We just don't like so-called progressive changes forced upon us, and too quickly ('quickly' is subjective of course. :-)). Like we saw at the pushback from the Voice, no amount of virtue signalling or shouting 'save the planet' to me will convince us to buy an EV.
I strongly believe that people like me will only switch to EVs when these two things happen:
EVs are somehow decoupled from all the other progressive causes, i.e don't preach how they save the planet - many people believe they currently don't.EVs need to GENUINELY stack up financially and environmentally against ICEs. From my research, the energy savings from manufacturing an 800kg battery will never be recovered compared to driving an ICE car for it's lifetime. I do 8,000km pa in my perfectly maintained 2015 Mazda 3 and plan to for many years to come. I'm a careful driver so I believe I'M the one saving the planet.Regarding financially, the EV discounting by manufacturers is two-edged sword. Yes, it's making EVs more affordable for the masses (yay), but it's killing depreciation for existing owners (boo). This now is putting people off purchasing.
I've read that comprehensive insurance is higher and there are long delays on ordering chinese parts and panels. Owners may wish to educate me on this, as I'm only quoting what I've read.
Chinese manufactuers are not yet as mature as their Japanese counterparts in establishing a robust nationwide support & service network.
We in the west don't see any of the sulfuric acid and chemical processing for each 800kg battery that goes into an EV. Many educated people are put off by the environmental damage caused by their manufacture. However most consumers are uneducated, don't know all this, so they naively judge a car's environmental credentials by the simplest measure - it's tailpipe emissions: Exhaust = BAD, No exhaust = GOOD.
BTW, I've been an aeronautical engineer for 35 years, so I do know a bit about mechanics and manufacturing.
Look, I'm not against EV in principle, but I believe their environmental and financial credentials are currently overstated. And virtue signalling activists are making EVs political footballs to be kicked around - which drives people like me away. What we're seeing now is the wider population gradually being more educated now and more cautious, hence EV sales are stagnating or falling. Happy to hear your thoughts on this.
I have a 6kW solar system and never felt that I was getting the full value from it until I got the EV. Except for occasional long trips, I have been 100% charging from my own solar during summer. Obviously the car has to be at home when it's sunny which is harder to organise during winter, but has not been a problem in summer.
So either you do not work during the week, or you do not go out on the weekends
How do you charge in winter when you 6kw system only produces 2 to ekw per day
" 2 to ekw per day ". Assuming a mishit key is e meant to be 3 or 4? And how many kWh which is actually the relevant statistic?
I'm guessing Martin knows his situation better than you do. He's acknowledged lower solar panel output in winter but still thinks he can charge successfully from his home solar. Clearly his commuting isn't long distance but IIRC the average distance of Australia car commuters only requires one full charge equivalent approximately every 10 days. Pretty easy to believe he might work from home, have an RDO, get a lift from a neighbour/carpool, use public transport even walk to work perhaps once a week and have the car home all or part of a day on the weekend. I'm not seeing any great lifestyle impact out of that. And I guess if his situation changes, perhaps he could add a couple more panels without great expense.
You can get 10-20kWh home storage battery a lot cheaper these days. You then transfer that stored solar to the EV when you get home.
With only 8,000 km yearly it will be harder to justify moving to EV right now. I see owning an EV as a cashflow thing like opening and running a small business. High outlay at the start but with EVs the monthly costs are very little compared to ICE (better cashflow owning EVs). Buying 2nd hand will make the change over costs more affordable. My mum has the same car and does the same distance and I wouldn't recommend an EV, not worth the stress of teaching an old dog new tricks.
Batteries used in EVs fall in to 2 categories, LFP and NMC with the more affordable EVs using LFP. Studies show that it is around 29,000km when an EV breaks even with CO2 emissions and becomes CO2 free for the rest of its life, and around 13,000 or less if using solar from home. ICE pollute for life, less at the start but continues for ever. Those kilometres will drop over time as more renewables are on the grid.
The driving experience is far superior in an EV compared to a standard ICE vehicle without the need to run back to mummy to get more food (refilling and owning a hybrid).
EV's are not a panacea and yes, over/unnecessary consumption of anything is bad. To a address a few points made in your submission.
1) The "break even" for EV Vs ICE in terms of km's driven is a very complex issue, but the more recent independent research puts this well within the normal life of a vehicle. If you can charge from your own solar it's very much easier to justify. However, I agree with your assessment on your own vehicle - probably best to stick with it rather than discard it at this stage.
2) Please don't underestimate the harmful effect of noxious tailpipe emissions (particles and chemicals) on human heath. This is an externality not costed and leads to the early death of millions of people each year. How much is this worth to you? So, Exhaust=bad is correct, period.
3) As you expect to change your car in possibly a few years you will only be the beneficiary of the rapid reduction in purchase costs.
As you may determine, and I'll not hide, I was an early adopter (in 2019) as it suited my use case.
1) 25-30k km/yr usage
2) Existing old vehicle from 2009
3) Solar generated on my roof contributes about 60-70% of my overall energy use of the car (95% of the house as well)
I hope you don't find it virtue signalling and I certainly don't mean to push any ideas onto anyone else. I can only report a largely positive experience of enjoyable driving, with a very high (at the time) capital cost and extremely low running costs and associated reliability. Insurance has been a bit higher (about 20%). I have attributed that to the new nature of the technology, but the subject of all types insurances has been perplexing in recent years - IE house medical etc.
My experience pretty much mirrors yours. I've been lucky with insurance this year. EV is still comparable with the old Prius and house insurance actually went down by $30.00. Can't explain. I'm at 82000 km now, at 60000 I did the sums, conservatively, and had saved over $4000 on fuel alone.
It's not only exhaust emissions (which really are bad) that cause damage with ICEs. You say that making EVs causes environmental damage, but how does that equate to the damage caused by oil extraction and its transport all over the world? I find it hard to accept that from a pollution standpoint EVs are worse, or even similar. Anyway, all cars pollute - especially with their tyres. We'd be better off with less of them.
Another factor with EVs is protection from oil shocks. We are completely reliant on fuel imports in Australia, and any disruption will cause absolutely chaos - given the parlous state of much of the world right now, that's a lousy position to be in. We do, however, make all our own electricity. It would make sense, from an economic security viewpoint, to electrify as much of our transport as possible.
1/3 of all shipping is coal, oil and gas around the globe. Most of that would go a way and I"m sure the whales wouldn't call that virtue signalling!
YES, ELECTRIFY EVERYTHING.
At nearly 18000km the environmental impact of the manufacturing of my EV has well and truly been offset. You cannot say that about ICE vehicles. The cross over point is about 15000km.
I charge from the grid so my energy consumption does add to environmental impact. It is just at a much lower level. A bit over 40% is from renewables. The energy efficiency factor reduces that significantly again.
I would like to see more choice at better prices in the EV market.
We will add more solar soon so our environmental impact will drop to closer to zero.
I must take your word for it that some people group together some causes as "activist". I myself don't understand why.
Why think of them as "causes" and why not judge each idea on its own merits?
Should I deny myself the advantages - as I see them - of an EV, because someone else likes EVs as well as one of the other "activist causes" that you mention? That would be silly, wouldn't it?
And what is "activist"?
Is "activist" anything that would change the status quo? Does that mean - for example - that promoting nuclear power is also an activist cause? Happy to declare nuclear regressive if that would remove the emotional burden of a progressive epithet. :-)
I'm sorry you're so insecure that you deny the logic of your own profession. My cousin is an aeronautical engineer too and has exactly the opposite view.
Interesting that Tesla hold both the 1 & 2 positions in Feb, and for the year; and that both models doubled their sales from January (something that, at the time of me writing this - none of the few other models to show data have done - this may chance as more numbers come in).
I normally wouldn't make a song-and-dance comment about this but thought it relevant, given there is another sky-is-falling article about Tesla sales numbers also posted today on this site.
Yeah, that's just Giles. He has Elon derangement syndrome and flinches every time he has to get in his Tesla - if he hasn't already sold it in a fit of rage.
I think that Elon has "Elon derangement syndrome"! :)
Giles creates a site which you consume.
He's a journalist, you are what?
You have a clear choice; you can vote with your keyboard and move on.
However, at this time last year over 4000 Model 3 had been sold and over 2000 Model Y, so there has been a substantial drop between then and now. It will need a few more months to see if this is a trend or a blip!
There are also a lot more competitors. Time will tell if this expands the market or eats into Tesla sales. Hopefully the former so we can all stop breathing diesel particulates
Clearly seasonal or long term trend data are more useful. Let's see where that gets to in April or May.
Not only 1st and 2nd place for Feb, but the Y & 3 sold more than the next 8 placing EVs combined.
It's a bit misleading. The everyone is selling their Teslas story turned out to be not true except for one person out of dozens I spoke to. That means second hand Teslas are currently no cheaper to buy.
Don't waste your time trawling through car sales for a bargain like I did.
Can you please explain why there are no Kona sales reported for January?
Kona EV sales are in there now for Jan and Feb.
And doing surprisingly well
Not included here (as its a PHEV) but the BYD Shark got 2026 sales in it's first month. This took it immediately into 6th place overall. Of course this is only it's 1st month and we should possibly expect a dip next month as initial back order demand is being satisfied, but it's a creditable start at chipping away at the huge block that the ICE UTE market in Australia dominates.
Yep unfortunately there are no dedicated NEV internet sites in Australia