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I realise that a CCS2 plug will not fit the socket on my Renault ZOE due to there being no space for the DC part of the plug. Would it be possible to use the Type 2 cable that came with the car to connect the AC part of the CCS2 plug to the Zoe’s Type2 socket, or is there some other incompatibility that would stop this working?
Peter Y
Hi Peter – would you like the short or the long answer?
The short answer is that a DC charger uses the two bottom pins of the CCS2 socket and only the earth and communications pins in the Type 2 section (see Pic 3).
The other 4 are simply not connected when DC charging(See Pic 3). Consequently, when DC charging there is no AC available to the car via the plug.
Therefore a CCS2 DC charger is useless to an AC-only electric vehicle (EV) like a Zoe or Kangoo ZE1.
The longer answer involves explaining the precise usage of each pin in the Type 2 and CCS plugs.
In CCS charging, the AC connectors use the same system for ‘talking’ to the car and the charger2 as is used for the DC charging communications.
One communications signal (via the ‘PP’ pin) tells the EVSE that an EV is plugged in. A second communications signal (via the ‘CP’ pin) tells the car exactly what current the EVSE can supply.
Commonly, for AC EVSEs, the charge rate for one phase is 3.6 or 7.2kW, or three phase at 11 or 22kW – but many other options are possible depending on the EVSE settings3.
The trick with CCS DC charging is (as mentioned above) it uses the same communications system as the AC charging system.
As shown in Pic 3, this means that for DC charging the manufacturer only needs to add and connect two more pins for DC below the Type 2 inlet socket – thereby creating the CCS2 socket – and talk to the car and EVSE via the same pins as before. (Unless you are Tesla – but that is a longer story told elsewhere. See here.)
This is also why the CCS system allows for a much smaller plug that the older separate CHAdeMO and AC sockets – CHAdeMO uses a totally different communications system to Type 1 or 2 AC charging – in fact it uses many more pins to do the same thing – hence the large size of the CHAdeMO plug/socket combination plus the need for a separate AC socket.
Notes:
- EV chargers are more properly referred to as EVSEs – short for Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.
- Mass-produced electric cars are smart: they will only draw as much charging current as what the EVSE tells them they can. (At least up to their manufacturer’s set maximum: in the case of many manufacturers, for AC this is 7.2kW single phase).
- Before anyone notes in the comments –the technically savvy/deep pocketed can buy (or make) boxes that can adapt 3 phase AC EVSEs to provide DC charging, as well as vice-versa. But apart from noting it is possible and you can, if really motivated, do these things – for the average user they are not worth the expense for the extremely rare use they might get ………
Bryce Gaton is an expert on electric vehicles and contributor for The Driven and Renew Economy. He has been working in the EV sector since 2008 and is currently working as EV electrical safety trainer/supervisor for the University of Melbourne. He also provides support for the EV Transition to business, government and the public through his EV Transition consultancy EVchoice.